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Notes from a Don Share masterclass

What is it about poets called Don? There’s Don Paterson for starters. Don. Paterson. And now Don Share.  Maybe it’s the the power/mafia connotations (Don Corleone). Or the suggestion of raffishness (Don Juan). Or the hidden warning: not DO but DON’t.

So here’s the thing: picture sixteen or so poets perched in a circle, hothoused in a room of the Richard Jefferies Museum on the edge of Swindon. All eyes and ears are on the Editor of Poetry, Don Share, who’s been flown in from Chicago for the Swindon Festival of Poetry. No-one quite knows what to expect, but I for one am hoping not to have to do any work at all, other than listen and take the odd note. And that’s exactly what happened.

After the initial introductions, Don had a pretty good idea of just how much ambition and urgency was present in the room, and he set to answering our (mostly unspoken) questions. In the afternoon, there was some expectation that we’d all subject Don to one of our poems, for him to offer some pointers. We’d lost two participants (including one of the only 2 men) by then, but there still wasn’t time for everyone to have a go. But no-one really minded, especially as Don offered to email his comments to anyone who’d been left out.

I admired the way Don kept the energy going throughout the day when others might have wilted. Some of the funniest moments were clearly unscripted, such as the ten minute discussion about how he’d agonised over publishing a poem, the problem being the poet’s use of the word ‘slab’. And when he said with no hint of irony that he’d always wanted to visit Swindon (“it’s in the Domesday Book!”) Or pronouncing on the poetry greats: “I’ve no idea what they were setting out to do, what was going through their minds – maybe they were just geniuses and we’re all screwed!” And later on “The Waste Land is just crazy-ass!”

Of course there was also a huge amount of fascinating stuff…although you ‘had to be there’, here are my notes which I hope give a flavour of it. Huge thanks to Don for his generous sharing (no pun intended).

Don Share in Swindon

On the editor’s role

There are good editors who are not poets. There are good poets who are not great editors. Don sees them as 2 distinct roles. He reads a LOT of poetry – the magazine gets 120,000 submissions a year, for starters, and all are read by Don and Consulting Editor Christina Pugh.

Editors must be ‘pitiless and undeceived’

Editors can’t be publishing only poets with an established reputation – if that were case then (for example) Poetry wouldn’t have published T S Eliot. (As it was, the publication of ‘Prufrock’ in 1915 resulted in years of hatemail.) He still gets hatemail from people about stuff that’s published. “If we go down the route of only publishing what everyone thinks poetry is/should be, then we’re lost.”

Don doesn’t necessarily like most of the poems he publishes. It’s not about liking – “the most powerful poems are infuriating”. Christina Pugh’s judgement on the majority of ‘perfectly competent’ poems is “there’s nothing at stake here.”

On comparing oneself to the great poets

It’s absolutely correct to say ‘I’m not Ted Hughes’ or ‘I’m no Emily Dickinson’ – because they were themselves, and so must any poet be. “you can’t imagine Emily Dickinson in a workshop.”

Don read ALL the back issues of Poetry and he says that 94% of the poetry published in it over the hundred years or so is not good (ie it hasn’t stood the test of time).

The key for ‘competent poets’ – ie those of us getting published, writing perfectly OK poems, making a bit of a poetry name for ourselves – is to not just aim for mere competence. Don remembered when Derek Walcott became his mentor, looked over one of his poems and said ‘This is very good, well done … you could write these kinds of poems all your life… but is it your life’s work?”

Don’s advice – list ten poems that for you are absolute favourites, poems  you aspire to, and ask yourself  “are these competent poems? What makes them more than that?”

What can the poor aspiring poet do??

Eliminate the ‘obvious stupidities’:

  1. Be honest – ie true to what you know, where you’re from, what you’ve lived. (This wasn’t discussed exactly but it made me think that perhaps the ‘poetic’ elements that can creep into a poem are to do with adopting a register that’s foreign to us in everyday speech. There was some discussion afterwards about how playing up to one’s ‘roots’ was a big trend in poetry at the moment – leaving those of us with very little in the way of distinguishing features – ethnic, regional, class etc – feeling a bit disadvantaged!)
  2. Be specific. Make the reader live it/see it/ feel it like you do. “As soon as I see the word ‘bird’ in a poem, I’m done.” What kind of bird? “If it’s not coming from something you know, it’s scenic … it’s got to come from a place of honesty. When an American reads Ted Hughes, they see what he sees, it’s as if they were where he was – it’s not about a kind of realism, it’s about being able to inject a reader with an image.”
  3. Another problem is that students of poetry are shown (or study) the great poems, and if that’s all they read (rather than reading broadly from a poet’s body of work) – that is a problem. If you only read the exemplars then you don’t have a feel for how the poet got where they did. Even the great poets wrote some crappy poems, went through stages when they couldn’t or didn’t write great poetry. “The work that your worst poems do has to be the work that your best poems do” … “make something of what you’re bad at” – (I’m still pondering what this means exactly).

“The things you worry about least in your poem are the things that can set the poem apart, if you pay attention to them.”

“If you start off knowing what you’re trying to say then the poem becomes predictable.”

“Readers are like editors – they catch you out.”

Tips/ comments from the workshopping session

  • Form – how a poem’s laid out on the page – is the first thing the reader/editor notices. Have a reason for the choosing the form you’ve chosen. Things like stepped lines, right aligned, spaces, one word on a line – what’s the reasoning? If you were to read it out loud, is the form obvious to the reader, and if not, why not put it into a form that matches how you read it? The rhythm might shape the poem. Play around with form. Try different things.
  • The title is the next biggest thing – if it says too much then the poem isn’t a surprise.
  • Pay attention to consistency of tone/language / register
  • Some of the lines of your poem may be scaffolding – it serves a purpose while the poem is evolving, but can be taken out at the end (I liked this a lot!)
  • Similarly, you can often edit out the first few lines – they’re often just like the vamping that musicians do before they start the actual piece of music
  • Using the pronouns ‘she’ or ‘he’ – why not ‘I’? It’s a distancing thing so maybe there’s a psychological purpose for it? Don’s advice is that readers prefer not to be put at a distance, want to feel the speaker is talking directly – more powerful.
  • Why not give people names? Character come to life when they’re given a name – readers care more if it feels like direct speech not just a story told by someone else. Don gives the example of Ted Hughes’ Letters – it’s the fact that it’s Ted & Sylvia that we’re reading that makes it so fascinating, not “just another guy in a crappy relationship.” If a poem is about a couple, their relationship, why not tell us their names?
  • Details, specifics. They can make a poem more memorable, different, unique even. eg ‘Adlestrop’. Think of Betjeman with all the proper names he uses. Larkin.
  • If you allude to something, the observation has to be good enough to stand alone, in case the reader doesn’t get the allusion
  • Be careful with words like ‘gush’ and ‘spume’ as they can overpower others. (Perhaps this should be the basis of a list – ‘words that overpower’?)
  • Somebody or something must be changed in the course of a poem – either in the poem itself or in the reader or both. There’s a shift – what is it?

I have some back issues of Poetry from when I took advantage of a freebie offer I think, and it’s a great magazine – I’m now motivated to subscribe properly, as one of my ‘rolling subscription’ system whereby I try to get around to subscribing to different magazines for at least a year at a time. The Poetry Foundation website is a fantastic free resource in itself, and every month there’s a Poetry Magazine Podcast that’s definitely worth a listen.

Robin Houghton & Don Share

Star-struck selfie

0 Comments on “Notes from a Don Share masterclass

  • theartfulscribe
    October 7, 2014 at 10:20 am

    Nice blog. Informative, a pleasure to read, and nice to be the recipient of beneficial advice. Thank you.

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    • Robin Houghton
      October 7, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      Thanks for coming by and commenting, Matt, I’m glad you found it useful 🙂 Your site looks very interesting, btw.

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  • Peter Raynard
    October 7, 2014 at 11:10 am

    Great post Robin and thank you very much for sharing, there is much to learn from it. I’m struck by the point ‘Be honest’ and the trend to play to one’s roots. I think this is true but also think that everyone has roots, or ‘life experiences’ that are interesting. I often feel that the dominance of the ‘misery memoir’ perspective is too narrow. On my blog Proletarian Poetry, although it is of working class lives, I want to try to include ordinary experiences particularly humour and not just the hardships. See Karen McCarthy Woolf’s Hoxton Stories for example. Thanks once again. Peter

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    • Robin Houghton
      October 7, 2014 at 2:01 pm

      Thanks Peter, yes I’m sure you’re right, we all have something in our background even if it seems less than interesting than that of the next person. You see there’s an example – Hoxton already has a glamour missing in, say, Lee Green. 🙂 Thanks for commenting!

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  • Steven M. Critelli
    October 7, 2014 at 11:43 am

    Great post, Robin. Very informative. Thank you for taking the time to do a full report. Best, Steven.

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  • Josephine Corcoran
    October 7, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    This is fabulous, Robin, thank you! Even though I was there myself, and took quite good notes, yours are more detailed, and you’ve really got to the heart of a lot of what he said. I left the day feeling very enabled, heartened – in fact, the opposite of how the poetry “scene” sometimes makes me feel.

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  • Robin Houghton
    October 7, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Hi Josephine – thank you! It was so rich and exciting, wasn’t it? I was agog – although not everyone felt the same I guess – I noticed one person near me who seemed not to be listening, but reading her own poems the whole time – which seemed a bit odd!

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  • Antony Mair
    October 8, 2014 at 10:26 am

    I grew up in the unglamorous town of Reading, and Swindon was always considered as a total dead end of a railway town – how things have changed! Fascinated to read this post, Robin, with so much that’s useful. The thought of reading 120,000 submissions a year makes my brain freeze over. I wonder how many of those are by people writing about their cats?

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    • Robin Houghton
      October 9, 2014 at 11:41 am

      Hi Antony – yes, 120K submissions – ACK! He did admit that the vast majority are, well, let’s say ‘easy to quickly dismiss’ (my words, not his!) For my part, I’d never write a poem about a cat, as no poetry could improve on the purrfection of a cat!

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  • msjinnifer
    October 9, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Thanks so much, Robin. I was there too and took notes but an extra view is helpful. What a day! He was so generous and it’s very interesting how different the U.S. perspective is.

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    • Robin Houghton
      October 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      Thanks for commenting, Jinny. Yes, I found it very refreshing!

      Reply
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